{"id":33806,"date":"2022-07-05T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-07-05T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/?p=33806"},"modified":"2022-07-05T06:00:00","modified_gmt":"2022-07-05T10:00:00","slug":"secrets-of-the-secret-of-the-shadow-beasts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/?p=33806","title":{"rendered":"Secrets of &#8216;The Secret of the Shadow Beasts&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Diane-Magras_ABOUT-DIANE-768x1024-1-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/Diane-Magras_ABOUT-DIANE-768x1024-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33807\" width=\"346\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>Diane Magras is a middle grade author with the gift of writing books with real heft and dimension within a breakneck adventure story. Her newest book manages to incorporate some of her established strengths and interests and weave them into a wholly different setting. I knew from spending a pre-pandemic day with Diane in area schools that she had real command over the historical dimensions of her books and was not surprised to see her evidence that same command over the fascinating world she set her terrific new book in.  <\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark> In <em>Secret of the Shadow Beasts <\/em>you adapted the strong affinity for medieval settings and weaponry you displayed in your two <em>Madwolf&#8217;s Daughter<\/em> books, into a modern environment with a gaming element. The pandemic\u00a0\u00a0has been all about adaption. How do you think young readers will connect with that element of the book?<\/p>\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/secretshadowbeasts-678x1024-1-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/secretshadowbeasts-678x1024-1-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33809\" width=\"340\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> I consciously slipped in some medieval elements (especially with characters who love medieval history, as I do), but a lot of readers will see the major medieval-like elements of the story\u2014the Orders that the kids belong to, as well as the weaponry\u2014as part of a gaming world. I was certainly thinking about what gaming was doing for people during the pandemic. For many, gaming was a way to escape a stressful world, to have power and agency at a time when they felt very little of that in real life. That holds true for my protagonist, Nora, who uses gaming as a way to survive her father\u2019s death. The agency that comes from gaming was a big part of my inspiration, and I think that\u2019s the big adaptation in real life that kids especially saw: they could build, battle, and survive (or come back at a spawn point) in this remove from the real world, a world that gained new meaning when all else was bleak. I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if many young readers relate to that.<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/hpl-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"273\" height=\"389\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/hpl-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33811\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark>The idea of separate ballads strung together in a particular order to\u00a0\u00a0produce a single, gestalt piece of music is a wonderful notion in the book. Lovecraft, however, suggested in writing that &#8220;The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.&#8221; Are Lovecraft&#8217;s notion and the sublime ballad put together and played by Nora&#8217;s\u00a0father related?<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> Lovecraft is talking about greater awareness, and that\u2019s actually a big theme of <em>Secret of the Shadow Beasts<\/em>\u2014but in a positive way. By having a better understanding of our world, we are better able to deal with its problems, though we may find ourselves shaken to our cores. \u201cCastle in the Sky,\u201d Owen Kemp\u2019s fiddle piece has deep emotional meaning and a strong healing element. By playing fiddle and creating tunes throughout his life (his work is based on traditional Shetland fiddle music), Owen processed his world. As the years went on, his pieces became faster, more complicated, and more profound, all speaking to his struggle during a difficult period in his life. Originally, each piece was a part of his trauma and recovery, representing key moments: betrayals, awakenings, escapes, and hope. By sharing them with his daughter, he was sharing his past. But unlike Lovecraft\u2019s vision, by linking these pieces together, Owen created a whole new work that had the power to strengthen its player. I see the revelation of the whole piece as majestic, hopeful, and ultimately healing.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark>The idea of kids being put at risk to protect adults is always a powerful inversion. How did you approach it in your new book?<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark>I hope it\u2019s an inversion that kids will enjoy. How often are they literally the only ones who can save the world, and recognized as such by their society?<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/180124_ursula_seated_70s_banner-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/180124_ursula_seated_70s_banner-1-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33812\" width=\"340\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p>That said, I was keenly aware that this inversion might be a challenge for some adults. \u201cWhat kind of world would send their children out to fight monsters?\u201d they might ask. And they might wonder about the moral choice made by this world, akin to Ursula K. LeGuin\u2019s question about utopia: What are you willing to do to the few for the good of the many?<\/p>\n\n\n<p>Yet I wanted this to be a moral world, not a society with a corrupt and uncaring government. It\u2019s simply a world stuck in a horrible situation. As I mentioned above, the only ones who can save humankind are the children. Shadow beasts pause before they attack children (they don\u2019t pause for adults), and children who can handle the monsters\u2019 venom can use that pause to defeat them. This government has tried many other methods, but this has been the only method that works.<\/p>\n\n\n<p>This government also does everything they can to keep children safe. They train only a small number of children from a very young age to be ready for battle\u2014in body and mind\u2014with mental health services equal to the physical training. By the time these kids go out to fight, they\u2019re not risking their lives: They\u2019re highly trained professionals who know what they\u2019re doing. Those who are not ready simply don\u2019t fight, as the Director of the National Council for the Research and Destruction of the Umbrae tells one of my characters. And in that sense, I neatly sidestep the moral question. Unless the young warriors themselves take chances or don\u2019t follow their training, they\u2019re actually reasonably safe out with the monsters.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark>Acknowledging that some people consider childhood itself a modern invention, was there anything like a gaming equivalent for medieval youth?<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/medchild-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/medchild-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33817\" width=\"340\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> Childhood was actually a treasured part of medieval youth: a time to learn, play, experiment, and grow (though it ended a lot sooner for many people). Video games themselves could have two parallels with medieval games. RPGs based on action would be a lot like imaginary games of warriors and battle (and for kids of noble birth, it would be actual practice with wooden swords and targets). For the lore that is such a crucial part of gaming these days, I\u2019d point to storytelling. Relating legends and stories was a huge part of medieval life: in lessons shared by family, through the church, or heard by the fire at celebrations. Children would have heard these stories year after year, and learned to embellish and share these stories themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark>Large corporations are being understood more and more as assuming the roles in its workers&#8217; lives traditionally filled by religion and social and sporting clubs. How does The MacAskill Corporation seem to fit into that societal development?<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/A-Kircher-Ars-Magna-Lucis-Et-Umbrae-Roma-1646-Frontispiece-1.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/A-Kircher-Ars-Magna-Lucis-Et-Umbrae-Roma-1646-Frontispiece-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33818\" width=\"340\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> MacAskill\u2019s organization is actually a wing of the government of Brannland: the National Council for the Research and Destruction of the Umbrae. They exist not as a for-profit but as a high-level agency that aims to protect its citizens\u2014but I can see the similarities you mention. Its public wing offers research-based advice on Umbrae behavior, as well as health-based advice, including what to do if you\u2019re bitten, with free antidotes distributed annually and on-demand. The private element brings together children on a voluntary basis to train to battle the Umbrae. But here\u2019s the thing: No one particularly wants child soldiers. It\u2019s just that no one else can stop the Umbrae. And so the National Council trains the children carefully, with research-based practices, to ensure that they\u2019re prepared once they\u2019re sent into the field. When they\u2019re not in the field, they receive everything they need\u2014from mental health services to familiar foods from their childhoods to a library designed for their reading levels and interests. People within the National Council have been involved in this work for most of their lives\u2014former knights who age out of fighting often become staff\u2014and so it\u2019s a tight-knit family too. Each generation thinks about what went wrong and what they needed, and makes improvements in the care for the next. I saw this as a model for how a society in desperate straits could create a healthy, positive world.<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#943142\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny: <\/mark>If you were going to recommend books for your protagonist Nora to read that might help her with the challenges she faces, what would they be?<\/p>\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/9781643790404-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"259\" height=\"400\" src=\"http:\/\/wordpress.publishersweekly.com\/blogs\/shelftalker\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/06\/9781643790404-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-33819\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> Nora needs to think about the truth that hides within our narratives of history, and how we might stand against oppression. I\u2019d give her Supriya Kelkar\u2019s wonderful historical novel <em>Strong as Fire, Fierce as Flame <\/em>to ponder that. She also could use a narrative about how kids can survive impossible odds, and what\u2019s beautiful about life when you have nothing; I think she\u2019d enjoy and learn a lot from Geraldine McCaughrean\u2019s <em>Where the World Ends<\/em>. For a warm story about trauma and healing to help with the trauma Nora carries, I\u2019d add Niki Smith\u2019s graphic novel <em>The Golden Hour <\/em>to her stack. And for team-building among people who aren\u2019t quite your friends, Rajani LaRocca\u2019s <em>Much Ado About Baseball <\/em>would be a delightful read and give her some useful tips!<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#8e2b3d\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Kenny:<\/mark> Thanks Diane!<\/p>\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);color:#116f97\" class=\"has-inline-color\">Diane:<\/mark> My Pleasure. 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